If that post was directed at me Volf. First only post on stocks...

If that post was directed at me Volf. First only post on stocks I hold or trade, Second Kar is the only stock in my portfolio that does not pay a div. I have traded kar on and off for 10 years. And of late have increased my holdings based on the fact that I feel as stated above that they heading in the right direction.
I do not discuss financials, based on the value of any asset they purchase or plan to purchase as stated they are driving the ship and expect and hope they know what they are doing, even if some here question that.
I also have no expertise in those matters, but always happy to read the expert opinions here on hot copper that inform me on those issues.

If I walked away from Kar now I would still be very happy with the final pay out. But feel there is more to be made ahead so I stay in light of my gut feeling that has served me well to date. So that explains why I hold and post only for Kar. Maybe you can explain why you hold Kar with your appraisal to remove the management based on their incompetence.