So every man and his dog is allowed to peer review the IPCC...

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12/10/17

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Originally posted by mjp2 ↑

I think your thinking is pretty uninformed there.

The IPCC report is drafted by respected senior groups of scientist authors, for each area of study, from a review of the science literature. Then that draft is reviewed by many other scientists and edited so that a summary view of the findings of science overall is written. Because it is an IPCC report and must be accepted by all UN countries there is a challenge to that report from national representatives from member countries, so the report tends to be conservative. If the scientists cannot robustly back what they say it is challenged. By the likes of the USA and Saudi Arabia.

But the process of science is for ideas and studies to be put forward by individual scientists or groups of scientists. Some won't get published because peer review points out fundamental flaws. Some will get published because elements of a study or data provided in a study are valuable and worth consideration, even where the results may be contentious. And that sort of boundary pushing study will get examined by further science work, that will confirm the original paper or find fault with it. That's the process of science.

None of that stops scientists like Spencer or Wadhams bypassing all that and blogging their little hearts out or writing books, or giving interviews to journalists. So not all reported views and blogs are supported by the science and scientists as a whole.

The IPCC report gives us detail on what is widely accepted and found to be robust, and provides a perspective on areas of research where findings aren't conclusive or are less certain.

If you jump up and down and judge science by the blogging and newspaper articles from every Spencer or Wadhams you don't understand science or human behaviour.

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So every man and his dog is allowed to peer review the IPCC Reports, but their is no peer review of individual climate models as these are "secret", "proprietary", or whatever.

Just invent a model and add it to the "ensemble", so long as it falls within the 3Σ of the existing ensemble it won't be rejected as an "outlier", and just be used to reinforce the dogma.

Somebody should invent a model and try to get it included, just for a bet; not unlike L Ron Hubbard invented scientology based on a bet that he could invent a religion.
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