Flee from idolatry

Originally posted by Copperbod: ↑

"Re Matt 2:9 for example, it did NOT need to be translated as "was", if you take the truth of the words either side of it etc.
Just because it might be translated like this or that elsewhere in the Bible, that does Not make it right, that's just pack mentality, following the sheep."

What I said was ..
"BTW there are many other NT verses that use use ἦν and also translate it as "was". eg Matt 2:9, Matt 3:4 etc"

Which is true, present and correct and meant as an example.

Let's try to stick to the subject of how we can improve your understanding of translation and knowledge of Koine Greek.
Throwing in red herrings and rehashing your current versions doesn't add anything.

So, to quote from my post ..

"Your John 1:1 translation using "I am" or "I exist" for the original Greek word ἦν as per the Interlinear is WRONG in this passage.
It is not even the same form as the Strong's dictionary one εἰμί you insist on using and have built this inaccurate version on."

What do you think that simple fact means ?
Especially since there is clearly no "I" in ἦν (or εἰμί where it is only an added option in some parsings.)

So, let's get to the bottom of this particular issue.

Then maybe we can look at why "with" was used rather than "to, towards" or one of the other myriad forms.
What does (God's) Word to, towards God mean ?

"So come on, man up and tell us all WHY the above is incomprehensible, don't forget, it's the Greek lingo, not mine."

Wotsup, can't you see how this idea that "it's the Greek lingo," is wrong and misleading you.
It's NOT Greek but your attempt to produce something in wotsupian English by misunderstanding how complicated and difficult Greek to English translation can be.

Please no more red herrings or rehashing your current beliefs, let's just concentrate on what's needed to improve your Greek translations.

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When I mentioned Greek lingo and not mine, it was in the sense of flow, not like the English, that's all.

So, you got all caught up in your bias mindset, a failed to tell us Why one cannot write 1:1 etc as I have done and how and why it does not fit in with perfection of the overall theme of the Bible?????
You cannot shove this clear fact aside.
Not to mention, 1:14 definitely mentions Word/Human and does Not say the Word became human.

Whoever the Word is (1:1), they ARE being introduced as Word.
You ignore many verses I also placed up that show how you can rightfully use "self" as in God speaking.
Again, your going on planted seeds of many translations = your going on pack mentality = stupidity.
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To and toward, simply means or is in reference to something coming from the thing, item, mentioned before it = the Word was............to -> the God.
To and towards = mind, reason, wisdom, to thought to plan to the formation, gathering of words within before expressing -> to the God. (belong)
1:2 This;.....= the, to and towards area = belonging to the God, better description than saying "with" the God.
How I placed it (other day), personifies it way much more, how it was intended to be, just like God's wisdom is in Proverbs etc.

So the "to and towards" are for a Jesus to be, man and Gens creation, you have zero options but to include that in 1 & 2 as 1:3 demands this as 1:3 is a flow on topic, part of 1 & 2.

1:3 Hence all things through self came into being..............and God said............ = The Word creation became..............no, no clowns, the Word didn't become creation, it produced it, just like it produce Jesus, another word of God = Word/Human
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Anyway Coppo, just so you know, I know enough for myself, I couldn't give a hoot anymore for others on here, it is extremely clear that it is and will be impossible for them to see, unless God or Jesus lifts the vail, so to speak.
I have been doing what you might call very simple basic tests, and it is LOUD and CLEAR.
White is bloody white so to speak, but not according to many.
So, you might say I'm done, so don't waste your time with this Geek stuff.