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    Greetings!

    I don't expect a response to this, but thought I would put it out there.

    When using the ASX Margin Estimator, which has little explanatory notes that I can find, I can use the Black-Scholes model to calculate "deemed/theoretical" prices that match up when there is no upcoming dividend. I think I can see how the European ETOs are calculated to account for the next dividend, as it seems they just subtract the expected dividend from the current/underlying share price which I'll show with the example below. However, I don't understand at all the method used for American ETOs when there is an upcoming dividend as the dividend yields seem unrealistic.

    I have used an online BS calculator for the example below and all that I have found give the same results. I'm using some FMG calls as there is an upcoming dividend with the exact ex-date to be announced on 28/8, so probably not affecting the 31/8 expiry. But to begin here are some results from the ASX Margin Calculator screenshot taken this morning (22/8/23):

    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/5527/5527375-70babd5e9d3d7e0f59a621549d82058e.jpg
    So the FMG European/American calls for expiry 31/8 have 9 days remaining and no dividend yield for this result which almost matches up with the ASX results.
    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/5527/5527395-1c3fd93c95c772f9461f00e2e441d17f.jpg


    Then, using a current share price of $19.47 can be found by subtracting the ASX div1 amount, ie. 20.42 - 0.95 = 19.47. It's 30 days to 21/9/23 expiry and then assuming no dividend as it has been accounted for in the adjusted share price, I get this result that matches the ASX price for the European call FMGYN9 above.
    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/5527/5527392-931dd871bd76538f718a5f14b5828bff.jpg

    Finally, I have to use a dividend yield of about 38% to get the result matching the ASX's price American call for 21/9/23 FMGEG7. This equates to an annual dividend of $7.75!
    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/5527/5527447-39da7ee77f8489f88aa677faaa18f645.jpg

    Any help with this would be appreciated.
    Last edited by dazzalicious: 22/08/23
 
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