I agree on the opportunity of more liquidity for shareholders...

I agree on the opportunity of more liquidity for shareholders outside the majors and that could well be part of any mix that may occur should Glencore ever want to sell down.

I think we are all on the same page with regards to the very poor level of PR/Shareholder communications, however I concur with Kalenn that I would rather have a team of directors/managers who know how to plan, build and operate a mine(s) who are poor at talking it up rather than the other way round!!

PR can only get better, it can't get any worse.....