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10/08/17

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Originally posted by mjp2 ↑

Whatever we think about globalisation is beside the point. But to pursue that, are you not a free market capitalist? You don't want to compete with Indians who can do your job cheaper than you can? You are unwilling to deal with Schumpeters creative destruction personally?
That's understandable, when it hits anybody, individually. And, sure, I have issues with how the developed world has managed the effects of globalisation on work forces.

But the point is, that's beside the point.

To get back to the issue of carbon pollution, if you've been away and have just found out that your neighbour has poured a truckload of shiite in your back yard, then you expect him to clean it up, or pay for the clean up. Now, if you don't think that's how it works I am happy to come and crap on your doorstep or in your letterbox every morning and smile and wave and test your beliefs on that one.

We did a farmstay once where the farmer told us about a bit of a gag he and one of his neighbours had going for a couple of months. One of them had given the other a hard time about something at the pub, something about not being able to shoot a possum (noxious pests over here) if it was right in front of him. The next day the farmer nail gunned a dead possum over his mate's letterbox with a note saying he couldn't even shoot them if they were nailed down.

That increasingly rotting carcus did an alternating shift spread over the two neighbours' letterboxes for months, so the story goes. With a couple of increasingly irate farmers' wives.

The point is, it's simples. You sheet carbon pollution into the global commons, much more than the other guy has, for a century, then you pay a bit more to put it right.

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And the few carbon intensive industries that developed countries still have left will simply be shipped offshore to India, under the guise of globalism, but really to avoid CO2 imposts.
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