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Originally posted by peteai: ↑

you can't seriously believe that, can you ?
let's just pretend that were the case (I dispute in 2 cases 1 ) in Ukraine's fault and 2) Putin's motivation)
- all Putin had to say to the US and NATO is that would lead to war and it way would be negotiated to avoid a war
no that didn't happen because Putin wanted the war, and had much bigger goals and nothing was going to stop him
- I remember the US saying that Putin is going to invade despite Putin's claims that was just western propaganda (with many Putin fanboys here on HC repeating it )

and then he just did it - no ultimatum, ..just a Hitleresque blitzkrieg - except a totally inept blitzkrieg and here we are

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Are we discussing events here on Earth or some other alternative reality? You want me to imagine that Ukraine has not been shelling the Donbas region since 2014, and I am supposed to reply to you pretending that Putin got out of the wrong side of the bed one morning in Feb 2022 and launched an invasion into Ukraine?
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