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Originally posted by wotsup ↑

I suggest the said adding of 17:3 is a load of hogwash, it's simply claimed that now by the CC, as it knock them for a 6, right out of the ball park.

We all know that Now, not like the OT times, that eternal life hinges on knowing both of them, but the way to it is through the Door.
OT times it said Yehowah alone, but we know full well that he was always going to do this through a future one.
Hence the Bible says, God sent the Son to be the saviour of the world.
Bible verse just reference the Father as the Saviour and other it is Jesus, so it is in effect now, a joint effect, God and His Son and not one God here, defining them both as you are falsely claiming.

He can give life as he was given this privilege from the Father, by effectively snapping his fingers so to speak lol, and also by giving people the word of God which is Spirit and life, born again via it.

So get on board and do you duty show how you can add - Father, Son and Holy Spirit to 17:3.
You made a song and dance about me rightfully adding Father, so it's time to stop ignoring this duty of yours, and address it.
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All that proceeds from the Father also proceeds from Jesus, as both are one,
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All that proceeds from Jesus, he was raised in, given it and both are one in word = accepting the entire word of God and it's messages.
Meaning, they (words)effectively become you...............and God was the Word (and God was Word), God (word) to be all in all.
If you accept the word which they both relayed and accepted and as they are deemed as spirit, then you have the spirit of them in you.
If we all get on the same page, we have the spirit of each other in us, we all become one as they are one, but we don't become God, just as Jesus didn't.
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You see wotsup, it is you who is jumping to conclusions as to what you assume that I know or said in regards to v17:3, it's only spinning in your head
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It was you that claimed just today, that you had told me all about 17:3, now you spring this latest = you clearly didn't tell all in the past.
So, my assumptions were rightfully based on YOUR prior words.
Looks like a Gottcha moment there as whereu would say
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How do you get this notion that I don't know that without Jesus on the cross = no salvation, now that's a mystery, did someone say something about making assumptions
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Repeat, the Only True one God that Jesus ref in 17:3, is NOT ref Jesus, he is clearly reference as AND...............= 2 of them, God and Father and the Son.
Where is your holy spirit that you claimed in this verse????????????????????????????????????
Houston............................................. lol.

Lots of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx from The Word - Father, The Word of God - Son and Word wotsup oh my, another trinity lol.

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We all know that Now, not like the OT times, that eternal life hinges on knowing both of them, but the way to it is through the Door.
Glad to see at last after all the hammering of all posters on here not just by me that you are starting to understand that the OT was written without the full knowledge of who God is, so hope that you keep this in mind when you quote it and stop jumping up and down and saying see this is what the bible says
The OT written without the full knowledge of God and Christ assumed the above, and also the nature and substance of God’s makeup, with Jesus coming down and doing what only God can do we know differently as Jesus revealed who God really is.

OT times it said Yehowah alone, but we know full well that he was always going to do this through a future one.
So, either Yehowah is alone or He is not, as you said above in the OT the full story wasn’t known, we definitely know there is also Jesus, that makes 2, Yehowah and Jesus, Father and Son, unless they are one of the same there is a problem with God being one, John tells us the Word was with God and the same word was God, later the Word becoming Flesh, the same very Word that was with God

Hence the Bible says, God sent the Son to be the saviour of the world.
Correct, to sent someone that someone has to exist in the first place, we see the “Word” existed, then coming down and taking the form of a human lowering itself as to partake onto the salvation of humanity’s sins, as we see in the OT sacrifices, Jesus partook once and for all time that sacrifice for our forgiveness of sins as in Heb 10 it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats take away sins. For this reason, when he came into the world, he said “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; By this “will,” we have been consecrated through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all= door

Bible verse just reference the Father as the Saviour and other it is Jesus, so it is in effect now, a joint effect, God and His Son and not one God here, defining them both as you are falsely claiming.
Correct, both who saves, but if you look at all the verse God maintains that He is one, alone, there is no other, and He only saves nobody else, no helpers no nothing

But John tells us the “Word” was with God and the “Word” was God= with or together as one
The “Word” not God the father came down and became Flesh = Jesus

Since the Word was with God, in union with God and the Word itself was God what was achieved by Jesus (the Word) in effect its attributed to Godhead as a whole

On earth Jesus always made reference in pointing to the one God

We see the Father working on His own, He’s not the Son
We see the Son working on His own, He’s not the Father
And We also see the Holy Spirit working on His Own, He’s neither the same person as the Father or the Son

They all work on their own, but containing the same nature and substance working as one = the Trinity all leading humanity to eternal life