the whereu dilemma

Originally posted by bowral ↑

"I may agree with you if I knew what you are writing about."
Look at this thread,you made points statements regarding the bible,that had zero evidence.

"You, in my opinion are just providing a further example that you think you are a person of superior intellect and regard most of us as fools, especially those who disagree with you."

Nope,just those who misrepresent a subject,the bible,with there own bias ,which is intellectually dishonest.
Im no smarter than you,and being a teacher,of course you would actually be the one who is always right from my experience with teachers,i think that has more to do with it than anything.

"Arguing with someone who is clearly ,misrepresenting something i hold in high regard."

"Have you ever thought that you also misrepresent things that I hold in high regard."

Certainly have thought about that.
But,misrepresentation is a two way street,you guys LOVE dishing out the propaganda of misrepresentation,and hate the same thing back.Respects a two way street.

"Have you ever considered that our representations of things that we both hold in high regard are just our preconceived and biased opinions based on what we think of as real. "

For sure,but dont expect no opposition.
You can believe what you like,but when you misrepresent christian beliefs,thats what i oppose from you.

"If you want agreement I suggest that you post on a website with like minded theists."
Got no problem in you representing what you believe,go for it
Its the misrepresenting and concepts of christianity,no wonder with what you say about it you dont believe in it.
Because it makes little sense.

"And go and stand in front of a mirror if you want to "zig hail" - your reflection may appreciate it; I don't."
Sorry,eugenics and survival of the fittest seems to be your thing,all based on what you love

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"Look at this thread,you made points statements regarding the bible,that had zero evidence."

OK, if I did, I apologize. If I did, please provide a few examples so that I can either find the evidence, support what I said, or apologize specifically without an "if" qualification.

"Nope,just those who misrepresent a subject,the bible,with there own bias ,which is intellectually dishonest.
Im no smarter than you,and being a teacher,of course you would actually be the one who is always right from my experience with teachers,i think that has more to do with it than anything."

That's rubbish. As a teacher I often apologized to students for getting things wrong and with my children and students always tried to avoid being seen as a know all. You are making statements without evidence - just what you accuse me of doing. I think that you are being intellectual dishonest in implying that it's either your way or the wrong way.

"Sorry,eugenics and survival of the fittest seems to be your thing,all based on what you love"

You accuse me of misrepresenting the concepts of Christianity. I understand your accusation because my understanding of Christianity is vastly different from yours. But I accuse you of misrepresenting my beliefs in evolution and its moral implications.

I (and others) have posted this frequently but I'll try again with a summary.

The theory of evolution is about those beings that possess the best attributes to reproduce most successfully and to pass these attributes onto future generations. Beings with these attributes tend to dominate.
Some of these attributes result in beings able to dominate and secure food sources and other resources most successfully much like modern humans do.
However there is another side to the attributes that beings possess and pass on because they too give the beings an advantage. The survival rate of individuals in groups in which individuals cooperate, show kindness, empathy etc is considerably enhanced.
We have two sides to our natures - one is a cruel side; the other is a kind side.
We should have sufficient intelligence to realize that enhancing our kind side is the best way to go. I am happy to report that this is exactly what the school attended by my grandchildren is doing.