1. we (Australia) started this mess by invading Iraq but you say...

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    1. we (Australia) started this mess by invading Iraq but you say we have no place in this war?

    2. we & our allies are the warring faction since our allies funded & supported ISIS and continue to today (such as Turkey)

    2a. ISIS are essentially a multinational collection of mercenaries thus are not related to any local conflict

    3. Assad does/did not want Howard, Rudd, Gillard, Abbot or Turnbull removed as leader but they want Assad removed as leader

    4. what the English & French did post-WW1 is unrelated to the conflict and did not really create never ending conflict. although the English & French may have created some artificial nations, there was not unending conflict

    5. the major conflict in the area has always been for control of the oil, which started when the US-UK Operation Ajax was used to remove the democratically elected Iranian govt in 1953

    6. the creation of Israel contributed to local conflict, i.e., Zionist terrorism, then PLO terrorism and then the Lebanese civil war. but this conflict was very localised

    7. Israel cannot prevent any nuclear states, eg. Pakistan.

    8. the Muslims nations have nothing intrinsic in them that is a threat to the West

    9. the Turks have always been idiots since they took over Islam hundreds of years ago, which lead to the Crusades since the Turks were so violent. before that, the different cultures & religions did OK under Islam. for example, when the Caliphate moved from Mecca to Damascus, most of the govt administrators were Christian. the Turks continued their idiocy by joining in WW1 and joining NATO

    10. the real causes of the Syria conflict are: (a) US-Australian invasion of Iraq; (b) Assad refusal to allow Qatar build a gas pipeline thru Syria; (c) USA-Saudi-Qatar-NATO-Turkey intent to remove Assad

    11. in short, what is falsely called 'Islamic Terrorism' in the world is the Wahabbi Terrorism sponsored by Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia is our ally and blameless to us

    12. in short, it is us upholding the terrorism because it obviously serves the interests of our govts & corporations
    Last edited by ddzx: 27/11/15
 
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