Moonlight, Europe will be a sorrier place if they give Turkey visa-free travel through the EU, and much sorrier again if they admit Turkey to the EU. As Sarkozy said :" Turks are not European and have no place in the Eu".
As for the US/Nato.... I am disgusted that they wont pull Erdogan up over shelling into Syria to kill Kurds. It is all a big joke.
