moderators really need to step in and clean this up.
rarely any insightful comments... I apologise to those who have something important/ meaningful to say, there a few.....
Just a bunch of grumpy old men blindfolding themselves and picking a side......
moderators here are a few ideas,
1) make a mandatory post length (just for this thread) 2) anyone posting so called factual data needs to give a source or state it is an opinion, else it is moderated 3) rules for flaming really need to be tightened
