Does anyone know when Gillard stopped being "young and naive"?????
------- well that really depends on which Julia you are talking off
Julia MK1 was a tad naive,then by the time she had discovered herself and either decided or realised she was the boss which was,going by memory and that is the problem as most of us cant keep up,but at a pinch i would say Julia MK12 was when she woke up and discovered a drawer full of knives,but that was only a temporay arrangement,she has since gone back to a deep sleep,now older and no better
