they're actually both the same 808 points in length :-) although one was in a world of exuberance and growing enthusiasm, of ever expanding credit and risk...
the other propped up by those heavily debt laden before they began creating more debt in an attempt to encourage others to be optimistic although this time the others were unemployed, previously stripped of wealth or focussed on protecting current wealth....
at some point before the debt laden cannot continue the facade the optimistic enthusiasm and expansion needs to be in forward motion or .......
meanwhile neither side knows precisely at what point the other is at...
it should work out fine.... it has too... doesn't it? :-)
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