the truth - more facts from israel , page-23

sofa - torah = truth Sofa you posted

I am not a historian or Bible verifier, talk to me in laymans lingo,

If you are not a historian then why did you make that comment regarding the scribes of the day making changes etc etc? Did you dream that up and hope it would not be noticed? Either admit that you plucked it out of thin air ….or put up and shut up.

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if the land was yours, why did you leave it and got scatered all over the world, why didn't you stay and defend it,

What a silly comment. Why did we leave it? Because Israel was invaded by a superior army, it’s inhabitants taken away into captivity and exiled to all parts of the world. You think the Jews just packed their bags and decided en masse to migrate?

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when the Israel was formed and by whom (in a form it is now), was it in a torah ?

Yes, it was in the Torah and you know what? It still is! Assuming one believes in the Torah, Israel wass given to the Jews via an irrevocable promise made by god, first to Abraham then to his son Isaac and then to Isaacs son Jacob, who by the way was renamed Israel…….God made good his promise Israel, or as referred to in the Torah , the Land of Canaan was delivered to the Jews when Joshuah invaded Cannan. You may ask, ah.. but someone was there first? The answer is simple. We believe this entire world belongs to god. If he willed that something should be taken from one and given to another, that’s his choice….end of story.

He’s the boss and just like any regular owner can move his things around anyway he likes so too here. If you decide that you want to store your furniture in one kids room and then later you decide to move it to another, provided it’s your house and your furniture, who’s going to tell you what to do or what not to do?

Besides, those who study the Torah would be well aware, that Abraham bought the fields (which encompassed all of Israel or Canaan) when he looked for a place to bury his wife Sarah.

We view that sale as recorded in the Torah, just as you would regard the Titles Office being the authoritative place to record your purchase of any property.

Our titles office is 4,000 years old. Good enough for me.

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I got enough of this, also I want arabs to stay were they belong, most importantly I got enough of any MANIPULATION by smart pants like you and you-alike

I too would like all the Arabs to stay where they belong. We just happen to disagree where they belong.

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got the balls ? why are you here, go and defend your land, strap yourself and counter-attack your enemy

The Israelis don’t need my help. They’ve whipped 5 combined Arab armies on 4 different occasions and will do it again. Trust me!

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STOP bamboozling the rest, ok
Who is bamboozled? The so called “rest” quietly wish and hope that we take care of “business”, put these lunatics back into their boxes and those lunatics who won’t, then make sure that they get dispatched to their waiting virgins as quickly as possible.

If you read the Torah (even in English) one wonders why Pharaoh didn’t let the Jews go after the first plague. Why did he have to get zapped 9 more times and finally after all the shit he and his people had to endure, he still chased them (the Jews) to the Red Sea and yet again got wiped out?

God hardened his heart, so that he could be taught an even bigger lesson each time. So too here. Arafat and the PLO are having their hearts hardened. I can only assume that history is repeating itself and that there is another “whack” to come.

To him and unfortunately to whoever backs him.

Then there will be peace………not only for Israel but for the world.

In other words "Let my people go and leave them be"!

That’s the message…


Atheists, agnostics etc etc….. please ignore my post