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    re: News: AlgaeTec showcase facility visit fr... A climate change denier from the biological sciences - well knock me over with a feather, who would have thought that?!! The only bigger group seems to be geologists.

    No, we do not have a control planet without humans. Instead we have very, very sophisticated models that have been run backwards and forwards thousands of times and can very accurately predict weather and climate events down to smaller and smaller regions of the planet.

    In any case, here is the smoking gun for human induced climate change. This is based on peer reviewed science. If you don't understand it at first (no shame in that, most people don't get the significance of the chart the first time around) let me know and I will explain it (on the S & M forum there is an extensive recent thread).

    Summary from Skeptical Science:

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-co2-enhanced-greenhouse-effect.htm

    Original paper from Nature (abstract only for those who can't log in):

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v410/n6826/abs/410355a0.html

    Also, where is your evidence that there is "very clear evidence that greater rates of change have occurred naturally many times"? I have never seen it. Put up or shut up... references please. (Should be easy if it is that "clear".) If you think I sound annoyed it is because I am, my apologies for that. You say you have a science background but we seem to get a lot of 'opinion' from you, not many references. (The two charts you posted above do not show greater rates of change in the past. Yes its been warmer in the past and yes we may have had higher CO2 levels but I am challenging you over your statement about the rate of change.) Same old, same old on this science-forsaken web site. (Monckton, Nova and WUWT et al not accepted as credible references, in case you are tempted.)

    And please do it over on the S & M forum where it is meant to be done. There are plenty of your fellow deniers over there. Join in mate, its an anti-climate science frenzy every day of the year over there.

    P.S. PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA) paper: 97-98% of experts in the field accept the theory of human induced climate change...

    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/04/1003187107.abstract

    "Expert credibility in climate change

    William R. L. Anderegg a , 1 ,
    James W. Prall b ,
    Jacob Harold c , and
    Stephen H. Schneider a , d , 1

    Author Affiliations

    Contributed by Stephen H. Schneider, April 9, 2010 (sent for review December 22, 2009)

    Abstract

    Although preliminary estimates from published literature and expert surveys suggest striking agreement among climate scientists on the tenets of anthropogenic climate change (ACC), the American public expresses substantial doubt about both the anthropogenic cause and the level of scientific agreement underpinning ACC. A broad analysis of the climate scientist community itself, the distribution of credibility of dissenting researchers relative to agreeing researchers, and the level of agreement among top climate experts has not been conducted and would inform future ACC discussions. Here, we use an extensive dataset of 1,372 climate researchers and their publication and citation data to show that (i) 97–98% of the climate researchers most actively publishing in the field support the tenets of ACC outlined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and (ii) the relative climate expertise and scientific prominence of the researchers unconvinced of ACC are substantially below that of the convinced researchers."
 
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