alex jones rips piers morgan to pieces, page-37

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    First of all Chrysalis, you are illogically comparing deaths of many types with Homicide. Tobacco and alcohol related deaths are indeed a problem that need to be addressed, but that is a separate debate.

    Secondly, that chart of yours is thrown around the internet - Question to you Chrysalis - do you know who produced it? Well, you quoted Poorrichard's Blog. Who is Poor Richard? I looked him up - here is his profile:

    http://www.blogger.com/profile/10841839148479119096

    Remember what Proof by Assertion is?
    The chart claims various sources of data. Well, your non-firearm data is completely wrong. Suggest you get Poor Richard to validate/quote his source...

    ...a great example of Proof by Assertion - a good lesson to you Chrysalis.

    Thirdly, this debate is about guns and homicide (i.e. intentional murder). Therefore, only the last two rows are directly applicable to this debate - but the data is completely incorrect, especially the non-firearm homicides.

    Here is the correct data on Firearm and Non-Firearm US Homicides, as per the latest FBI data (2011):

    Total Murder victims:
    12,664

    Murder Victims of firearms:
    8,583

    Murder Victims of non-firearms:
    4,081

    Source:
    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-11
 
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