hi....potter.....many thanks for your thoughts......but hey.....i have lived with this probiem for 16 years now ..so one does become used to it [to a degree ] over time........however i do have , or rather have found out that there is a surgeon in dubbo of all places who has achieved success with a couple of people we have met ,with smilar problems...am now awaiting a date to see him......[just about the last thro of the dice ] ......but ..win or lose with that,,,,we do have the imminent success to come with NWE and that will make me/us feel a whole lot better about everything...come on a dollar fiddy..cheers
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