ben quite happy for you to point out where I have parroted agw dogma
i have certainly taken an opposing position to the content used in some of your posts to support your anti AGW stance.
I find it amusing that those that do not accept AGW as a real occurence always end up posting something that proves they are wrong.
Just as your post that started this thread does.
do you not find it ironic that the basis of the information in your opening post is that AGW is real, it is just not the major factor in determining temperature change.
How does that sit with you?
I guess you must believe in AGW if you are bringing this sort of information to our attention.
IS AGW real Ben? yes or no is fine. How about the green house effect? where do you sit on that one?
just what will happen when the solar cycle is leading to warmer temperature combines with the additional man made gasses contributing to the green house affect?
when the effects of these are heading in the same direction will the rate of change be so great that there will be adverse cosequences or will it be of no concern?