Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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I have not looked on this site for a while and have just found some of your latest posts, some of which were even moderated! However, you have now raised a number of points, in those posts, which require some detailed clarification by you.
We are well aware that MST held a large number of registered patents and also a number which were pending. I suspect that these that you have now found are some of those pending patents reaching registration. As I have mentioned, once or twice before in the past, there are many thousands of patents registered world-wide every year, most of which fail to achieve any commercialisation. Again I ask does the registration of these patents make them both commercial and thus automatically valuable. Based on MST’s record to date, of a lack of ability and the resources to commercialise, I would again have to argue that they currently are not. Also given that some of the earlier MST patents, which only have a life of 20 years, have either expired or are about to expire, what is their value? You are aware that Mike Dwyer in his report to the Administrator put the reason for the collapse of the Company as “The capital could not be raised to finalise development of the product to commercialise it” Given that MST product development has been undertaken since around 1994, some 20 years ago, and many millions of dollars raised and lost, we have wonder how much capital and time he thinks was needed.
Moosey, while it seems that you had a good relationship with the previous MST management, there seems to be an amount of conflicting information in your posts. Firstly, you told us that you had an email where MST had begged the ASX for a trading halt when the “Assured Fast” deal fell over. This is despite articles in the press at the same time stating categorically that the Company did not ask for a trading halt. I had expanded on the reasons that I believed this to be the case, and why they would not have. Now you suggest that “metalstorm told me some time ago that they were aware of this attempt to steal that IP, but they did nothing about it? Yet in one of his latter CEO presentations Lee advised “Over the last few months a specific project has been established in the engineering team to focus on IP protection. The key goal is to ensure that the Company maximises the IP protection on its product designs before the products are released to the market.” This sounds like they were doing something about protecting the IP. Certainly if they were not, which you claim to be the case, this was blatant case of negligence of duty by the Directors, and should have had you raise serious questions and concerns as to their ability and reason for continuance in their roles, did you? I assume not as at no time have you suggested that there may have been any fault from that quarter. While these contradictory statements may be very confusing for some, and I would have to say at this time unless there is contrary concrete evidence, I will go with the published statements.
Furthermore, you make claim that “I bet that the administrator wasn't even allowed to offer the 40mm 3GL to someone like ST Kinetics for instance, I am willing to bet that they would have jumped at the chance, the reason why it wasn't offered to them I believe is that the US would not allow any other country to possess Metalstorm technology in any shape or form”
Firstly please expand on how the US could and can stop the sale of Australian technology, to any party, that is not considered to be a security risk to Australia, and Singapore falls into that category. So on what do you base this claim? Previously, didn’t MST and ST Kinetics have a “Collaboration Agreement” to deliver final production weapons? Under the terms of that Agreement, MST and ST Kinetics had agreed to “collaborate in the design, development, testing, qualification, manufacture of prototypes and demonstration weapons and munitions as well as the commercial production and marketing of munitions and selected Metal Storm ballistic weapons that only use those munitions”. Was this not more significantly expanded in the many press releases at the time that the Collaboration was “to take its 3GL three-shot grenade launcher and 40mm ammunition to manufacture.” I also ask again did either ST Kinetics or MST manage to take this to manufacture and subsequent commercialisation. When did the Collaboration agreement terminate, or has it? Therefore I question this claim in two areas, firstly, it would appear that ST Kinetics would have had access to MST’s arsenal, including the 40mm 3GL etc, and therefore would have also been aware of any other potential commercial products. Secondly, we have been told by the Administrator that he provided details to over 85 of the Company’s customers, bid partners, prime contractors, weapon industry operators and competitors, for the sale of the Company as a going concern. This would have included all of the Company’s IP including your so called secret, or not to be discussed, IP, of which you have spoken so passionately about previously. Are you suggesting that they would have neglected to include ST Kinetics, who are a collaborative partner? Again interested to hear on what evidence you base this on. Could it be that possibly due to the fact that none of the MST products worked on by ST Kinetics during the collaboration had been or could be commercialised? Or could it be, strange as it seems, that perhaps ST Kinetics did not, or does not, see any value in MST’s IP? Could it be that the Singaporeans, a stand-alone sovereign state, are also acting in concert with the US? Is this now a world-wide conspiracy? This could also put pay to your argument that it is solely the US who was “by simply starving Metalstorm of any funds whatsoever, by simply not letting them get one sale on anything even that even slightly resembled any Metalstorm IP”.
You also go on to say “even fireworks or handguns it would seem, too bad that the Chinese have been working on the tech, for wellover five years or more now, I will bet they already have working models, if someone was going to steal the tech? well at least I could understand if it were the Chinese? But the US? KD? that would not sit well with me”
Given that I did not follow MST’s product development as closely as some however, I was not aware that MST was undertaking any development work in fireworks? Please expand on this and also show why this not become a commercial reality? As regards the handgun situation, we know that MST and the New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT) signed a formal partnership commercialise biometric technology patented by NJIT and applied to an electronic handgun developed by Metal Storm. Subsequent to this it has been widely reported that the NJIT had spent millions of dollars in federal and state grants however, despite this there has been no interest, for more than a decade, from gun manufacturers in commercialising it. So it seems from your perspective that perhaps the US were even stifling development by American institutions. It now seems that there is a new technology, for hand guns, highlighted elsewhere by Shiggy, which has been favoured by Joe Biden in his report to Obama and then to the US Government as part of their gun control legislation. This is the technology belonging to Triggersmart which uses RIFD as opposed to biometric technology used by MST and NJIY. This shows that despite spending millions of dollars, if you fail to commercialise, or fail to be first to the market, the value of your technology quickly fades. Further evidence of this is that a German company beat MST and NJIY to the market, by introducing a smart gun using biometric technology. However, I understand that it failed to get any commercial sales and the product has since been withdrawn. Triggersmart is an Irish company, so it will be interesting to see if it successful or fails due to (your theory) interference by the US or that product is just not commercial due to lack of market interest. If it fails perhaps the Irish may also claim interference. Given the commercial failure of the German product and the promotion of the Irish patents, what do you consider is the value of the MST patent?
I also find it a little strange that you also seem blasé and almost resigned to the fact of the Chinese obtaining MST technology legally or not. Given that the Chinese may in fact use this technology against Australia’s army! Yet you have a problem with an ally, the US, obtaining access to the technology
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
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piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
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so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
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fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
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diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
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Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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