clocks stopping at time of death, page-37

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    Hi RM

    Thanks for the reply.

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    " It is a difficult concept like that of The Father Son and Holy spirit but analogy such a space comprising of three dimensions without any component we dont have the complete package or H2O it can be fluid, solid ice, or vapour but just different states of what we call water."

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    Good explanation, the best I have read of the trinitarian concept. You may have just explained the inexplicable!!
    Added to that though he is also called the son of god(though all humans are called the children, therefore sons and daughters of god) as well as the son of man, all just to totally confuse the issue lol.

    ronsterm,the reason it ,the trinity is hard to understand,the facts are irrefutable

    the trinity was adopted from paganism and was only defined in the council of nicea in 328ad,christianity sprang forth from judaism because the jews knew god had a son,but they rejected jesus as being the messiah,because they were indoctrinated exactly like the modern day hierarchy have done today in the example being the trinity.it is nowhere defined in the bible,the word is never mentioned anywhere,the roman catholic church which is infact a pagan religion that became papal rome,even admit to being the institution that changed christianity.

    the trisequera which is the symbol of the trinity,has never been used in history as anything other than a symbol of paganism representing earth wind and fire,which is a pagan concept of an impersonal god

    the father son and holy ghost concept used in modern christianity is also represented by the equal lateral triangle,which again is a pagan concept,the rising of the sun,the noon day sun and the setting sun,they worship on sunday which is the venerable day of the sun,once again not seen anywhere in christianity until constantine imposed it on the populace,these things are all historical fact

    but when discussions of these points are given to modern day christians,they will name call,say thats not true,wont be able to prove it,change the subject and will not face the facts,the god they worship is pagan!

    the jews never have,and still dont worship a trinity,christianity came out from this nation,and the bible is silent from cover to cover on this issue,because it never happened til hundreds of years after the bible was finished

    the holy spirit is not an individual being like jesus and the father,the holy spirit is the presents of god without bodily form,there are only two beings and their spirit

    john 14.18 14.28 and john 20.22 ephesians 3.20 make these points clear

    to have to explain god as rm did,is not only unbiblical,but also unrealistic pagan concept,historically untrue,and would be the only time in history that one,dosent actually mean one,it means three,so it also defies common logic and the meaning of the what one means

    i am not a jw,thats usually the cop out in this discussion,they believe something totally differant and just as unbelieveable

    if the trinity were true,then jesus isnt really gods son,hes only role playing,and also he couldnt have died the death of the cross,because it would be impossible for him to die if that concept were true,thats why it is taught because it takes the father son relationship away

 
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