I think I played the subject comprehensively. The pastor has presented a misleading , fallacious argument. I don't know why you're bringing up the poor old RCs. Last time I looked every christian religion celebrates xmas, virgin births, coming back from the dead, burning bushes. It's all pagan stuff is my point. Therefore, christianity is based on a lie. And still no sign of an answer to the OP's question, where is the proof that the fabled "jesus" ever existed?