thanks dcob re BTR, good to know and appreciate it...
Now I may have egg on my face, but don't think it will hit 23.5c - if it does Mitta, maybe I can do a nudie run of one block of one of the capital cities (actually need to work out a bit harder first, carrying some additional unwanted weight) - maybe a few rounds in the ring with Money Mayweather might trim me down :-)))
