Don't forget the pool ....how many kids would still be alive today if the very first time they disobeyed that direction.......if it was accompanied by a smack...what price life in the end.....now we mandate fences with punitive punishment to cover those that had no good clue or good conscience how to parent in the first place...but what about the kids dead from the self absorbed ideology in the first place.......still nothing more than acceptable collateral damage possibly??....a giant pineapple up our anus is the Oz lefty ie Hitler in psychology in aspiration.
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