"Only God can clear that debt off, for his ability to pay is infinite no human beings account or that of an Arc Angel like Michael, would be sufficient."
Not surprising again a wrong statement
AS the self existent one
god himself could never die.
But as his son became human flesh,he could represent his father,and in fact said when asked the question,what is your father like?
jesus said,if you have seen me,you have seen my father
He was the perfect representation of god,as he is the express image of his fathers person
Dont you all love how rm and d12 have never addressed 1cor8.6 in every thread lol,there is one god,the father
The bible is crystal clear that jesus and god are two totally seperate individuals and personages,spirits
Not one being that is one god made up of 3 individuals
"If God is Just and if you can just concieve of the possibility that another person could pay moore for the hurt and sin of man than God can. Then ultimately what you are claiming is God's Justice is not infinite."
If the trinity is true,it makes a mockery of the truth
For the fact that,God risked nothing as the trinity states that the son had no beginning and is self existent in and of himself,therefore,it was impossible to die?
So wheres the risk in that?
Once again,the pagan concept comes into play,that it was only his humanity that died
Remember what jesus said to peter when he said he was going to die?
Peter said,far be it from thee that thou should die!
Jesus said "GET BEHIND THEE SATAN"
"God has taken the hit for us, and that is no different if you ask for forgiveness from anyone. The hurt you have done to someone else you are asking to be forgiven by them. You have asked the injured party not to retaliate and also for the indebted party to carry the hit or burden of the pain that you inflicted on them."
According to the trintarian point of view,god cannot die see last answer,it was impossible
Just like the pagans
From which this doctrine came
We are left with a human sacrifice
So like all the other meanings which we are not to understand in there original meanings of the words
Like son,father,one,now death or to die must have a new meaning outside of what everyone already understands those words to mean
They try to spiritualise away the contexted meanings of the original words,just like the new age movement spiritualize away the context of the meanings,like wafflehead was trying to do with his new age concept of the bible,saying jesus christ consciousness etc or that he wasnt who he clearly said he was
