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Max I reckon the first 5 years of CDU will be the glory days - What happens passed year 5 will depend greatly on the copper price at the time. As far as magnetite goes I reckon its extremely doubtful if it can be commercialized as Xstrata have demonstrated by waving their option on the J/V rail spur and no longer shipping that product - A far bigger issue for me is the commercialization of the cobalt which is a huge contributor to the Cu EQ profitability of rocklands. Will it happen ???