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    "I don't believe in evolution in the same way that people believe in God. I do believe that it is a well tested scientific theory that despite over a 100 years of trying no scientists have disproved it in spite of the fact this is possible to do so. If it is ever disproved, no worries from me. That's science"

    whereru,

    "I do believe that it is a well tested scientific theory"

    Yes,its not science,you accept that opinion by faith,its not science,its belief

    Science is reproducible,testable,demonstrable and able to be observed

    Evolution theory,falls into the belief category,and no all scientists do not accept it as fact at all.

    " despite over a 100 years of trying no scientists have disproved it in spite of the fact this is possible to do so"

    Thats not a fact at all whereru,that is your belief,many,many scientists do not accept evolution as fact at all because of the gaping inconsistencies that have to be accepted by faith,not science,assumption,not fact

    When you said"i do believe" that is YOUR FAITH speaking

    You accept it personally as YOUR FAITH in that belief,which is your prerogative,but it certainly isnt science! by definition of what science is defined as!

    "Did I say people were bad because of their beliefs? If I did I need to be pulled up, and apologize if I did. "

    Thats good whereru,you actually have on other threads on your points about fundamentalists etc,but im glad you feel that way

    "I hold the view that people can believe what they like. It saddens me when I see people being bonded to a belief system by fear (eg believe or else) and struggling pensioners paying 10% of their incomes to support a guy with a fancy car and house. The way in which these people are persuaded to pay up I think in immoral."

    No differant to evolution being taught as fact now in our society,and anyone who dares to question the status quo are called flat earthers fundamentalists etc,dosent true science welcome debate?Objectivity?

    http://youtu.be/V5EPymcWp-g

    "I suppose the only way to control what people think is through indoctrination. In my view the hallmark of a good education is freedom of thought - as in encouraging people to think and explore for themselves. "

    Really?

    what did you mean by these comments then?

    "I feel the need to speak out about the rule driven interpretation of religion that has little warmth, and seems to be all about control. I feel the need to speak out against what to me is an expectation to suspend reason. For example the need to believe that all was created in 6 days and the literal interpretation of the Flood and of the Exodus from Egypt"

    "what to me is an expectation to suspend reason"

    So what you are saying is,if someone dosent believe as you do,they have an expectation to suspend reason?

    Why is that belief so differant from believing by faith that all life was brought forth 4.6million years ago,when non living in organic material(a rock)(primordial soup)gave forth something living and all life proceeded from this?

    Wasnt observed by anyone,cannot be recreated,because order came out of chaos.Species evolve from one to another etc yet there is not one example of this happening?

    You accept this theory by faith,the same as you point the finger at others for doing

    "The reason for speaking out against religion that controls and lacks warm is because in my opinion it indoctrinates"

    Are you trying to tell me communism and humanism socialism are warm fuzzy ideologies??

    The basis to the above ideologies is evolution,infact survival of the fittest and facism were all based on evolution as fact

    If you think you came from a primordial soup and you are just an insignificant piece of a naturalistic universe,dosent get much colder than that imo,so that point is lost on me

    I look at when the bible went to the people and they could see there hierarchy were lieing to them,and the free western democratic system of government of which you enjoy the freedoms of which it demands,yet call the basis to this freedom ignorance,again,another point that is lost on me,christianity has framed the free society we all enjoy,as globalisation destroys this,we see tyrany prevails again as the elite indoctrinate our society with beliefs that destroy individual freedoms











 
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