"I think the Exodus story is at best a jazzed story because their is no historic evidence to back it up. And I think that the story of a stick turning into a snake is just a child like myth very much like the talking snake in Genesis."
Yet you believe,all life came from a rock,a non living inanimate organism,turned into a living organism,just because you put so many zeros into the mix of how long ago it was,thats supposed to make it all plausible?sounds like fairy tale and myth to me!
"The second law of thermo- dynamics, which is accepted as one of the basic laws of physics, holds that under normal conditions all systems left on their own will tend to become disordered, dispersed, and corrupted in direct relation to the amount of time that passes.
Yes, but this applies to a closed system. The earth is not a closed system but receives energy from the sun.
Evolutionary theory ignores this fundamental law of physics. The mechanism offered by evolution totally contradicts the second law."
The Myth of the "Open System"
Confronted by all these truths, evolutionists like whereru have had to take refuge in a mangling of the second law of thermodynamics, saying that it holds true only for "closed systems," and that "open systems" are beyond the scope of this law.
An "open system" is a thermodynamic system in which energy and matter flow in and out.
Evolutionists like whereru, hold that the world is an open system:
that it is constantly exposed to an energy flow from the sun, that the law of entropy does not apply to the world as a whole, and that ordered, complex living beings can be generated from disordered, simple, and inanimate structures.
However, there is an obvious distortion here.
The fact that a system has an energy inflow is not enough to make that system ordered.
Specific mechanisms are needed to make the energy functional.
For instance, a car needs an engine, a transmission system, and related control mechanisms to convert the energy in petrol to work. Without such an energy conversion system, the car will not be able to use the energy in petrol.
The same thing applies in the case of life as well. It is true that life derives its energy from the sun. However, solar energy can only be converted into chemical energy by the incredibly complex energy conversion systems in living things (such as photosynthesis in plants and the digestive systems of humans and animals).
No living thing can live without such energy conversion systems. Without an energy conversion system, the sun is nothing but a source of destructive energy that burns, parches, or melts.
As can be seen, a thermodynamic system without an energy conversion mechanism of some sort is not advantageous for evolution, be it open or closed.
No one asserts that such complex and conscious mechanisms could have existed in nature under the conditions of the primeval earth. Indeed, the real problem confronting evolutionists is the question of how complex energy-converting mechanisms, such as photosynthesis in plants, which cannot be duplicated even with modern technology, could have come into being on their own.
The influx of solar energy into the world would be unable to bring about order on its own.
Moreover, no matter how high the temperature may become, amino acids resist forming bonds in ordered sequences. Energy by itself is incapable of making amino acids form the much more complex molecules of proteins, or of making proteins form the much more complex and organised structures of cell organelles.
The real and essential source of this organisation at all levels is conscious design: in a word, creation.
No, it doesn't. The earth is not a closed system - as stated earlier. Also the statements that whereru makes in this debate is that what i believe is only accepted by faith and what he believes is irrefutable by science,which clearly as per usual is spoken from a blind uninformed bias,claiming science is only on his side.
Which of course intellectual laziness.
"And I think that the creation story in the bible is just one of many creation myths that is contradictory and not supported by evidence."
Once again,bold statements of complete bias and ignorance
Scientifically,information,ALWAYS comes from a greater source of information,the information contained in dna completely destroys evolution scientifically because of the sheer complexity of information contained and the order contained in it simply scientifically would not and cannot work in the model of order out of chaos,complex information does not come from or evolve from simple basic life forms and evolve,just a child like myth giving people an excuse to deny a creator or intelligence so they can follow their own ways,ie like i posted before as example of which whereru swept under the carpet,like the governments etc that evolution sporn communism,socialism,humanism ,and leaders like mao,stalin, hitler ,whose governments were all based on the evolutionery premise that there is no God,so true to what whereru believes in,survival of the fittest becomes the order of the day,and because there is no God,there can be no absolutes,the is no absolute right and wrong,life becomes subjective to whoever is in power,decides the morals and the fate of the people.
Judeo/Christianity from what we observe has risen up the most free society,and benevolent society in the history of mankind.Clearly as the fabric or basis or model to thse societies are being attacked by globalization policy makers implementing humanistic policies which are tearing down the social fibres of this society,evolutionary thought is just a rehash of eastern philosophy which has no become the orthodox opinion,and polarization of anything other thought process is near a crime today.
