DDZX,
this is where you logic fails you,
you say,
no TB
mix ingredients into a cake
the cake is a creation
allow the cake to be until bacteria starts growing on it
the cake, the creation, becomes a creator
or eat cake until you get fat
the cake, the creation, becomes a creator
the one dimension Xian view simply fails every time
i say,
your answer is in your first sentence,
"mix ingredients into a cake"
if the cake was the creator, it would be able to mix it's own ingredients together, but since the cake obviously can't do that, then the "Cook" is the creator and the cake just the creation,
allow the cake to be until bacteria starts to grow,
who created the bacteria?
eat the cake until you get fat,
then exercise, the cake just becomes waste, which your digestive system created, or stored fat, still caused by your digestive system.
the cake still can't create anything.
the cake tells you that someone baked it
creation tells you something created it.
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