Manny you can see Jesus existed as God, and it was Jesus who emptied himself and gave up equality ------------- RM, That is misconstruing what the what Scripture you quoted said. It said Jesus "existed in the form of God" not existed as God. Also he "did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped" not 'gave up equality'. This fits with verse 5 which counsels Christians to imitate Christ in the matter here being discussed. They should imitate the one who “gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (NW)
