Against my better judgment, I actually bothered to listen to most of that exchange between Turnbull and Jones. Hadn't listened to Al for a year or three, and thought I'd better check it out to see if he'd progressed at all. Incidentally, he hadn't.
I found myself laughing when little Alan tried his normal trick of virtually yelling at someone to try to intimidate them, and Turnbull simply replied in a measured calm voice. Was very amusing to hear the contrast in manner and credibility.