re: re : 4wds time to ban them in the city c'mon sabre,
you have to do better than that. Kind of like saying you should not wear a Rolex watch on account it puts you at more risk of being mugged.
If you can't see ahead of a semi/tram/combivan/donkey cart loaded with hay/whatever, stay further back. Incidentally, some time ago I was stationary at lights and rear ended by a popular mid size sedan, driver of which was apparently looking at the shops. Sedan was towed away with something of a question if it was worth repairing. The cruiser, fitted with tow bar one should add), had the rear bumper replaced but that dare it be said was more for cosmetics than necessity.
Safe in a rear ender? Tested and proven.
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