My lifes confession, page-73

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    "He was charged with Blasphemy."

    Yes,but that blashemy was that he claimed to be Gods son,of which they knew made himself equal to God himself ie divine

    "As I stated already. I believe Jesus is Jehovah's son. I don't believe he is a literal son from a husband and wife relationship."


    Imo,you are trying to have a bet each way with that comment,you cant have it both ways.

    You say you believe Jesus is Gods son,yet you say it is not literal.

    You say you believe what the bible says.

    The bible says this is my beloved son of which i am well pleased math 3.17

    Jesus said he is the son of God luke 22.70

    Who being the brightness of his character,and the express image of his person heb1.3 mens he was the exact or express image of his father before coming to this earth,he was a divine spirit being,he was the son of God also in eternity past,as thats why john 3.16 says god SENT his only begotten son,because in order to send an only begotten son,you have to have one,this also blows the trinitarian view out of the water


    "Again I'm assuming as I'm not sure what you mean by a "literal son"."

    Lets let the bible decide,being made so much better than the angels,as he has by 'INHERITENCE ' obtained a GREATER NAME than they
    For unto which one of they did he say,thou art my beloved son,today have a begotten you Heb 1.3-4

    Then the concept goes on to clarify WHAT and HOW

    Heb 1 .6 When he bring the FIRSTBEGOTTEN into the world and let all the angels of God worship him

    Clearly Gods son here is clarified as not being of the created beings like angels,but inheritence signifies father son relationship literally,Jesus being birthed or born from the father himself inherited divinity and has all the attributes of his divine father.Look up FIRSTBEGOTTON from the original greek in yor concordance and the meaning is birthed or calved etc,a literal birth as is portrayed in the ot verse you quoted from proverbs 8 a father son relationship

    john 14.8 Jesus himself conveys this same concept when he said the father is greater than i,look that up in your concordance and find greater in the original greek means older than i

    "Possessed also means to own."

    Possessed means to be possessed by the same holy spirit

    john 17.22 and the glory(character)you gave me,i have given them,that they may be one,as we are one

    "He owned me, possessed me or created me. It implies a beginning"

    Yes correct,but this just means the father who the bible says is the only original life giver and only being who possesses life in and of himself,the fountain of original life originated from the father

    Which in his times he shall shew, [who is] the blessed and only Potentate 1 timothy 6.15
    You are correct that there was a time in eternity past that only the father existed,Jesus came forth from the father
    john17.27 john 17.28

    Why this is important,is this

    As the father is immortal and cannot die,the only divine being who could,and also return fallen mankind back to the image of God,is one who is like God,his divine son

    He laid aside his attributes philipians 2.7 and emptied himself,and as the son of God,he could represent God and use all his names whilst here on earth like i am el shaddai etc because he had the divine right to by inheritance of him being Gods literal son

    John 5.26 clearly says FOR AS THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF,SO HAS HE GIVEN THE SON TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF

    This is why the bible whenever Jesus met a new person who became his disciple he asked them who they thought him to be,if they answered the son of God they were to become his disciples

    He that believes on the son of god has witnes in himself,he that believes not God has made him a liar
    1 john 5.10

    Even the pope would say he believes that Jesus was Gods son,but if you read their doctrines of what they really believe,a trinity,he cannot be Gods literal son,and therefore the sacrifice he did on the cross was mearly either just a human sacrifce or only a divine sacrifice,therefore falling short of what was needed to redeem mankind,all of catholocism and mainstream protostants believe the trinity which denies these truths and jws etc deny Jesus divinity by saying he was a created being,the mormans say Jesus and satan were brothers,so it narrows it down alot.to not believe the trinity in orthodoxy is to be classed as a cult by the world council of churches,and when has orthodoxy even been correct in history?
 
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