My lifes confession, page-102

It isn't actually, because during our discussion I only referred to what you stated. I never brought orthodox Christianity into it and their adherence & acceptance of the Nicene Creed of 381.AD, because I wasn't having a discussion with the them. I was having a discussion with you. That the JW's also have the same understanding as me concerning Christ & his relationship with Jehovah wouldn't surprise me, as I've stated I do believe they have accurate knowledge. But concerning that Mr Gordon would need to clarify if that is true or not.

Jesus plainly reveals it is the father who has life within himself (intrinsic life). it is from the father that Jesus receives his life. Jesus did not have intrinsic life. If Jesus was an incarnation of an indwelling distinction of the eternal God. He would not need for the father to grant life to him. He would have intrinsic life as the father does. Yet Jesus says he receives his life from the father.

John 5.26 For as the father has life in himself, so he has granted the son to have life in himself.

Jesus reveals it is the father alone who has immortal life in Himself and gives of this life to the son. The context of John 5 shows it is eternal life being discussed. Although Jesus' physical life comes from the father as is true with all humans, Jesus is not talking about God granting him his physical life in this passage. The context of John 5 is eternal life. If the son Jesus is co eternal with the father. he would have eternal life in himself as does the father and would not need to be granted such life by the father. Jesus was given eternal life through resurrection from the dead.

Bowrall, you may be interested to note that I never wrote that. Neither did the Jehovah witnesses. It was in fact written by a Christian minister by the name of David Kroll and is an excerpt from his book, "The God of Jesus". So I'll say again if you want to discuss anything with me then please have the decency to respect that I have completed my own research into the scriptures to reach the understanding that I have.