I would suggets that "downramping" as you lament is actually a good definition of the rubbish you posted here and in previous posts in this thread. $23 to $35 - really? What planet are you on? Have you ever actually worked in the mining indusry? Amost enough to make me throw in the towel on hot copper - in fact I don't know why I have just wasted my time responding to this.
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