choke on this woow/fullguy, page-3

A positive move (and Musharef is keeping Pakistani fundamentalists under control) now let's see Israel recognise Palestine.
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You sound almost as silly as Woow.

Israel will recognise whoever is willing to live in peace with her.

The Palestinians and their Hudna....temporary cease fire?

What's there to recognize other than .........the same Tom & Jerry show goes on.

Abbas can't/won't piss without Arafat holding his d!ck. Some Prime Minister.......what a wank?

The encitement in the press and media goes on. School text books are full of it as are the fatwas that Israel must be replaced....

They won't undertake to arrest suspected terrorists........and once they do, the revolving doors will go in full swing again.


Long way to go before Israel is going to recognize the Pallies.......long way!

Jun. 30, 2003
EDITORIAL: The making of a terrorist state

Listening to US President George W. Bush and Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, they seem to be determined not to be midwives to a new terrorist state. The road map is supposed to prevent such a state from coming about.

Yet there is no escaping that the cease-fire that Israel is expected to accept will result in such a state, or the ultimate continuation of the war to eradicate the nascent Palestinian "unity government" of terror.

The "initiative," as last night's internal Palestinian agreement among the terrorist groups now attacking Israel is called, is not really a cease-fire, but a set of demands on Israel in order to agree to a cease-fire. Just one of these demands is the release of all the terrorists Israel has captured so far.

Israel has made such releases as part of the Oslo Accords, only to find these same terrorists killing again when the agreement falls apart. This mistake must not be repeated.

The idea of releasing terrorists who have been given multiple life sentences for the murders they committed is repugnant. If the Palestinians were signing a comprehensive peace accord with Israel, considering such a step might be understandable. Why, however, should Israel release terrorists when the Palestinian side is not even claiming that the end to terror is a permanent one? The murky Israel-Palestinian Authority agreement reached Friday does not seem to include major demands put forward by each side: prisoner releases by Israel and confiscation of weapons by the PA. Israel did commit to withdrawing to its pre-September 2000 positions in the Gaza Strip, and the PA to ending incitement and enforcing the cease-fire.

Few expect this cease-fire will hold, but in a sense the bigger question is what if it does? What has been accomplished? According to The New York Times, there is a consensus even between the US State and Defense departments, which have been divided over policy toward the Arab-Israeli conflict, that dismantling Hamas is a sine qua non. Even the road map, already in Phase I, requires the PA to "begin sustained, targeted, and effective operations aimed at confronting all those engaged in terror and dismantlement of terrorist capabilities and infrastructure." But if Hamas and other groups accept the intra-Palestinian "initiative" in the works, it will be precisely to stave off their dismantlement. If the alternative to the cease-fire is dismantling Hamas, why is the cease-fire a good thing?

What is happening now is reminiscent of the years 1991 to 1993, during which the PLO saw itself to be in mortal danger, having been dropped like a stone by Saudi Arabia and other countries for supporting Saddam Hussein during the first Gulf War. The result was the Oslo Accords, which not only resuscitated the PLO but put it in charge of a proto-state.

Now September 11 and the war in Iraq have ostensibly deprived the Palestinians, whether the PLO or Hamas, of the tool of terrorism and a major base of support. Now the question is: Will the forces seeking Israel's destruction themselves be destroyed, or will they be resuscitated and given a more permanent base once again?

Unlike the last time, it is evident that this is not just a question for Israel, but for America's global war against terrorism. The formation of a terrorist state at a time when such regimes are supposed to be toppled or tamed would be a stinging blow to the Bush Doctrine and to the vision of a peaceful, prosperous, and democratizing Middle East.

If the US is serious, it must jetison the fantasy that a PA headed by Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas will dismantle Hamas, an organization that it just invited into the government. Abbas, in many respects, is like Mikhail Gorbachev during the waning days of the Soviet Union: a reformer whose goals, however encouraging they might seem, are directed toward saving an unsalvagable system rather than tearing it down.

The effect of the cease-fire is to save Hamas and of the road map to save the PA.

The current attempt to avoid the unavoidable will be costly. How many more Israelis and Palestinians will have to die for the US to learn what it already knows?

A year ago, Bush said that peace requires a "new and different Palestinian leadership... not compromised by terror." This is not it, nor does it have a chance of becoming it. A PA that welcomes Hamas inside itself, or leaves Hamas, not to mention its own Fatah forces, intact to murder another day is not a step closer to fulfilling Bush's vision, but a step further away.