do they read this stuff, page-5

boy you don't mind the old character attacks do you buddy? sign of a highly evolved type. in which case you must be speaking in APG reversi (you know, the type of lingo that goes "i am good news, so sell me short"). so i presume you mean the half who keep denying that in spite of the fair weather the ship is sinking under the weight of all the crew hanging off the hull trying to abandon ship...