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OK- Ianwill, you come across as a pragmatic realist and that is why i will share with you something that made me cringe with concern.

Alan Jones, the shock jock on 2GB, had an in house interview today with the head honcho from Vodaphone. it's available on the website.
the reason he did this was because regional OZ is flooding his inbox of emails in relation to complaints about Telstra not filling their obligations.

this is the summary.
Telstra gets 300 million from us,(taxpayers) every year for 20 years to guarantee and provide service .
this, by the way, is totally non accountable .

what they are doing to small communities even close to capital cities, is demanding amounts up to half a million dollars for improvement to service.

also, the infrastructure that Telstra has already put in place was when it was owned by us, the taxpayer .

ps- the Vodaphone appeal is just the tip of the iceberg to expose the 'corruption ' of Turnbull.
everyone knows the guy is a gutless backstabber trying to save his last breath in the coveted top job.

guess what he will do to try and buy some votes in regional OZ?
he will make his usual captain's call, but this time to the so called independent ACCC.

and when the decision is likely repealed- what price TLS ?

that's why Crazypunter never gets carried away with fool's gold.

cheers crazypunter