The day and hour

Originally posted by wotsup ↑

3) The "this generation" verse is not a separate new verse relating to an unspecified far off 2nd coming event. It fits in perfectly and flows from the previous verses and is clearly the "wrapping up" of them.
I believe the original Greek is not separated into verses at all.

I can't believe I even allowed myself to be drawn into this shameful nonsense, but anyhow, last time for sure!

If one goes back the the Beginning of 13, even blind Freddy can see it as clear as day, but apparently you lot are blinder than Fred haha.
Ex the Gospel must be published among all nations 10. and Fred would know that wasn't expected in their generation = wake up Guy's and Gal's.
Then it goes on about other things clearly not expected by Fred, BECAUSE Fred knows about Daniel's prophesy and how there is a time frame in that and if the time wasn't shortened, no one would be left.
Holy Sh........ Fred goes

And Jesus at 28 goes calm down Freddy, don't you worry 28 - Of moreover =Beyond what has been stated; besides - he then goes into the parable.............that near summer is;
29. So also (therefore) when you see "THIS" (Fig Tree leaves etc) coming to pass, now that near it is at the doors.
So then the basics are then - Truly I say unto to you, this generation, the ones that see the fig tree event, will not pass.

You will notice the bold "you see" here, the Greek word here "idete", from what I can find out this is often what it means = to see with the mind, spiritually see, with inward spiritual.

The evidence when the whole chapter is considered (whole truth), Daniel etc, in now way was the Fig Tree sign going to be for them he was talking to. To suggest otherwise = Jesus's promise and "clarity" The Sheep will hear his voice.

So thanks Guy's, confirming once again, The Bible.

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Wotsup, you are embellishing and adding something that isn't there.
There is no problem with asking disciples to spread the news among all nations .. it simply means all nations they were familiar with. It didn't mean you should wait until printing presses, jet travel and the Internet in 2000 yrs time then off you go. It's a silly argument.

Verse 29 "this" does not refer to the fig tree.
It is a parable. The "this" relates to the questions of the disciples about what would be the signs of Jesus coming etc.
Why on earth would Jesus be answering questions from the disciples about what the signs of his coming would be then suddenly switch to talking about a fig tree sign meant for someone on the distant future.
It is an illustrative parable. He even says it is a learning parable.
There is no other sensible meaning.

I don't understand how you can refuse to accept that the fig tree is illustrative only. When new growth appears you know Summer is near. Likewise when these signs (the ones just given to the disciples), manifest they will know his return was near. Then the added reassurance that it would happen before their generation had passed = simple !!

Apparently this simple and obvious explanation of the meaning of Mark 13 is unbearable for wotsup to admit.
It shows how easily the mind is deceived by preconceived ideas.

Good grief, even MrG understands that the "this" does not refer to the fig tree.

Maybe as you continue to examine some of the traditional meanings and claims and mistranslations in the Bible you will revisit this "Olivet Discourse" and be embarrassed to see how pig headed you were to refuse advice from the wise men of the East intent on helping you pull your head out of the sand.