Thank you for a perfect example of carefully planned subliminal "marketing ploy".
You have been schooled well...the only question perhaps might be which paper do you work for?
Lets see...
Re down rampers...
"Most of them feel the need to add an alternative view to counter positive bias, in the interest of a more informed and healthy discussion environment."
Please, show us where there has been any semblance of an "alternative view" actually presented, other than fluff and bubble and vindictive self-serving drivel!
"There might be added impetus for them knowing there are good hearted people who fail to see the positive bias, and lose money as a result."
Here you are suggesting those with a "positive bias", by default, are not "good hearted people", because those who are "losing money" are listening to them...which by the way is yet another strange claim given CVI is near it's highs.
"Internet chat sites only work one way - that is, if everyone treats a poster as pushing their side of the story, because that's what happens."
Wrong; some people are actually here without agenda...might be hard for someone like you to believe?
"It is one side of the story, usually positive because that's the only way they personally benefit from it."
Again, an entirely biased assumption...the exact same comment can be said about negative posting, because shorting stock, or simply generating volatility works up or down...in fact, it works much more effectively on the downside given typical psychological reactions. Clearly you are posting a tainted and highly biased view here, so if I may, using your own measure, how are you benefiting from this?
"So really, it is the people who act on trade4profit's comments without scoping the other side of the coin, who is at fault. It pains me that they lose money as a result of their naivety but I don't see any other way around. Hotcopper can't work any other way."
What sort of cruddy assumption is this? Clearly a grubby back-hander designed to create a semblance of respectability and balance...just like the rest of your clearly tainted offering...yet in the process, push an obvious agenda that I am posting to the detriment of others and that by extension, what I post must somehow laced with agenda. Whilst I agree with your view people should conduct their own research, where the hell do you get off inferring I am in any way posting false or misleading information, to the extent I am causing people to lose money?
Absolute gutter, agenda driven crud!
"When downrampers realise this truth, they'll let nature take its course. Let threads be excessively biased to the positive. When people lose money as a result of thinking it is a balanced and informed debate, they'll learn, and change their ways."
What debate...there is none! All we ever see as a "balance" is agenda driven scare mongering, baseless and without any substantiated backing. But perhaps you are right...maybe they see their role to "balance" genuine discussion with "filler"...to bring the quality of general posting down to the usual sub-standard average.
I must ask however...again using your own measure...how do they benefit from this?
"I went through a phase where I was sick of the positive bias on threads and the mis information floating around as a result, but after a while you think to yourself, what can you do? Nothing, really. If anyone has a better solution feel free to suggest but I can't see anything better. So please, will all the downrampers, just hit the blue "Logout" button every time they feel the need to contribute and make hotcopper a better place."
How on earth can anyone, other those with a clear bias for agenda driven posting and sub-standard "balance", in any way suggest blatant unsupported "downramping", often just for the sake of it, or indeed the sort of vindictive stalking and flippant dismissal of the views of others (without supportive argument), is in any way a making HotCopper a better place?
Seriously...you must be joking, as such posters are the biggest detractors from genuine discussion. By the way, genuine discussion includes both positive and negative views...for some reason however, we rarely see decent argument for the negative, as evidenced in your own post. All we ever see is typically shallow, unfounded scare-mongering...probably because this is a far more effective way of achieving their obvious goals.
So much easier to feed of anothers fears then to argue a case on it's merrits!
"During boom times most people feel the need to become smart investors rather than smart savers. However what they should be doing is being a smart saver in boom times, and smart investors non-boom times."
What an absolutely ridiculous statement...are you really "advising" people to be invested in "savings" right now? I mean, this argument suggests we all should have been invested in "savings" for the last 4 years or so. lol...what a mistake that would have been. Same as when the proverbial hits the fan,,,the last thing I will be doing is "investing" until the market settles and oom times return.
Such comments are symptomatic of those who read stuff from people like Buffet, but don’t fully understand it...do you actually have any experience beyond text-books in the market?
lol
Anyway, cleverly disguised posts such as yours do more damage to the collective value of places like HotCopper than any number of up or down-rampers combined.
Like a Trojan horse penetrating the dweeb psyche, and twisting a screw diver into it, you are inflicting upon this community the putrid stench of agenda at its worst.
Cheers!
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