before you get to excited over garrett, page-25

lol - i think atamou's 'castration' is very much a metaphor - and not totally incorrect, imo

can't see them getting over the line this time, however, the likes of petro would be a plus for the liberals - i tend to agree with you re. costello - i think he has just gone with the flow of the current govt - but really, the electorate have registered that he doesn't have the balls for leadership, as shown by his weakness toward howard