Used to be bodgies and sharpies, having it out at St Kilda, I mean some of the sharpies had knives, but they only bashed each other up. If you ran fast enough , you were fine. There was definitely a bit of class warfare, haves, have nots etc, but this is a different twist on tribal violence in Australia, and its not our tribe. Hard for the social engineers to reconcile this, it's going to need some very patient community leaders to fold this mob into the mainstream.