For goodness sake Justis ... example ... @Hairyback gave 5 LENGTHY Parts of citing incidences where Turnbull white-anted Abbott ... it’s all there... numerous occasions. That you and your ilke choose to ignore what are ‘facts’ and continue with the ‘Abbott is giving Turnbull a hard time’ and ‘Turnbull is as pure as snow’ mantras just indicates ,imo, that you are perhaps incapable of having a decent dialogue on the subject because you have ‘tin ears’.