Another fine post.
Regardless of how religious or spiritual one might consider themselves, or indeed whatever the true limits of science, science is the only world we can tangibly know and touch and smell and hear. It is physical reality. The rest, religion, spirituality, God, higher plains of consciousness, etc, even with the very best of intentions, is purely subjective. It might be real in its own kind of reality, but that is not our reality at present.
The Bible, the Quran and the Baha'i writings, or the works of the great philosophers, no matter how poetic, esoteric or abstract they become, their reality is based on action and reaction in this physical word and that is the domain of science.
That's why our Baha'i friend said that Baha'is do not distinguish between science and religion.
There is only one truth, but we live in white light. We perceive in white light. On the great sweeping band of the electromagnetic spectrum we live in that tiny visible light band. All the other bands such as ultra violet, infra red and the nasties down the high frequency end effect us but unless we get an overdose we are relatively oblivious to them.
Science lives in white light with us. Now this being a totally out of control metaphor, higher consciousness and God, our own spiritual component, function outside the bounds of what we can perceive in this physical form and even when or if one was to experience the sublime we still have to drag the experience back to earth and dress it in physical terms. That is why the friends get so messed up with the Bible. These otherworldly themes get dragged back to earth and become literal impossibilities that just turn people away from religion.
To experience a greater sweep of the spectrum one needs to shed the body.
So my laboured point is that even the most spiritual of humans live completely in the bounds of science and the rest is pure speculation and imagination.
When somebody denigrates laboured, proven science they denigrate God.
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