too longwinded, noizy, although the content cannot be dismissed. i mean, where does one start ? Well, i can provide a clue. Anyone who has access to HC archives that go back far enough will establish beyond doubt that it was the advent on this site of a couple mahtza boys , ( yak and sookie ) which has led to all the divisions amongst what was once a pretty much happy crowd here. at least we didn't have to put up with the daily fear hate and kill postings by sookie, then the bully boy subsequent rationalization by the smelly yak. Think about it folks
