Well goodness me jopo, I was reading a paper the other day in which scientists were looking at solar irradiance at the planet surface.
But hey you insist "you guys" - whoever they may be - don't do that. So you can't be talking about me or the scientists.
I'll let these people who you are imagining as "you guys" reply to you. You can have a nice discussion with your imaginary "you guys".
Which isn't much different from your normal posting on here anyway.
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