Not what I say, but it's what the Bible shows. Not the same measure as Jesus though. The comforter, Holy Spirit --> Almighty God is what was in Jesus, hence Jesus said I will ask the Father to send another, replaces what was in Jesus. The curtain was torn, to open the way for us directly through the Door, Jesus to God. So in effect, their holding your hand. Chinese whisper effect etc, should have vanished.
However, from my hours of pain etc in trying to find out WHY we have this disunity which you lot rightfully picked up on, it looks apparent to me, if you do not have the true basics, first milk truth of the key basics of God and Jesus, who they are, then you will not get this leading etc. We have no choice but to let the Bible answer these sort of questions. The bible effectively says, mess with these basics, you will receive delusions and believe lies. Those of God hear Gods word etc, understand Bible passages as well, I would say.
Now I expect some areas you know yourself, appear black and white and yet there is no way some will ever agree with you. I have been doing testing (testing the spirit as words are spirit) with some in very simple areas and no matter what, they will not have what appears to be screaming in your face. I mean at times you stand back and shake your head, you have got to be kidding, hence again, we have to search the Bible for the whys.
But don't compare or align this with some rather stupid debates I allow myself to get tangled up in on here.
So I really think the likes of wolf in sheeps clothing, few find it etc, have grossly been under estimated and everyone just thinks, nope, that's them over there.
What I don't get and it appears odd with your following, the key followings, points, are all what Jesus taught, so why did they feel the need to create another type of Jesus, so to speak and come up with this pre-existing, discussing the mothers womb etc. The OT passages are very clear, NO pre-existing Jesus, so we have to let the OT interpret the new, stand back and let God or Jesus speak and pretty much all the NT verses, indicating pre-existing, are answered. But if one cannot seriously set seeds aside, stand out of your own picture, you will have no chance.
Sadly, because of indoctrination etc, one has to pretty much go to war with ones self and you will be mocked and all sorts. It's like trying to climb over the wall, you get a glimpse of truth and your smacked back down, but you have to be determined to get back up and not give up. Not sure if this makes sense haha.
I just cannot stress it enough, when you find the truth trail, no if buts maybe's, you know. 1 John 2:27 - But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 2 Cor 6:16 - And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 1 Cor 3:16 - Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
You have not got God and a Spirit in you, they are one in the same and through this one Spirit God and Jesus is able to come as well as he says so in John Ch 14.
