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Tonio, you avoid addressing so, so, so many things, like the plague.

So tell us all Tonio, are you trying to tell us where we see the words --> and God said,....that that is Jesus saying, let there be light?
Because that is exactly what you need to show, prove, BECAUSE John 1-2 dictates this for verse 1:3.
Because --> Neh 9:6 - Thou, thou, LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
Deu 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Psa 102:25 - Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
Isa 48:13 - Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.
Isa 45:12 - I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I,evenmy hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Isa 44:24 - Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and hethat formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh allthings; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
So Tonio, YOU are talking that Horse stuff again!
Instead of this stuff ???? coming out of you, Lets US let Jesus do the talking;
Matt 19:4 - And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Gen 1:27 - So God created man in hisown image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Very, very CLEAR language here Tonio.
I mean surely, surely NOT, your not going to try and tell us, it slipped Jesus's mind to mention, WE created them male and female = if so, stop being so, so ridiculous
Zero room in I, He, Thee, Thou etc to come up with this ludicrous notion, 3 of,.......we made this and that.
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Now this Col's rubbish, we have been through this crap before --> DIA = Through, on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of.
Now the above creation verses, only a snippet, DICTATE here how we should be seeing this Through would, it's true context and all the definitions, usages, are CLEARLY shown and defined above.

But anyway, lets US Let Col 1:15 Clear this one up, because in the mind and plans of God, his first INNER creation, Foundation, was for a future one, Jesus as IN Eph 3:9 - And to make all see what the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God,who created all things:
2 Tim 1:9 - Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before time eternal,

Now surely Tonio, you don't think you were actually called back then and neither were you literally given anything, because you, just like Jesus back there, did NOT exist.
Deu 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
(Zero hint whatsoever of a pre-existent one in any way shape or form in the likes of many verses like this, it was clearly in the mind and plans of God and shown above, so YOU need to stop tossing these verses in the Bin).

More confirmation --> Col 1:15 (All in the mind and plans of God Almighty) --> He is the image of The God the invisible, firstborn of all creation.
Confirmed Again --> Rev 3:14 - And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creationof God;
Rev 13:8 - And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain fromthe foundation of the world.

(Now I don't give a hootie toot what many people and Bible say, distort regarding this verse.
It is clearly saying and confirmed in the Greek, Jesus was slain (pre-slain) before the foundation of the world.
Foundation in Greek, also has the meaning conception = Founding in the mind and plans of God as per Eph 3:9, hidden mystery).

Confirmed also in the Greek truth of John 17:5 as well;
And now Glorify Me You, Father, with Yourself (first time literally) with Glory insofar held before the world existed, with You.
Jesus asking for God's literal presence as God is Glory and for the Glory that God alone held, before there was any literal creations at all.
All fitting in with perfect harmony, sinks perfectly with everything thus far.
John 17:22 - And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
(Logic and the clear language of the Bible, this Glory Jesus gave is what he was given to him = The Word = The Word of God, and this is clearly shown, identified, as the only way we can become one as they are, is to accept and abide in the One Spirit of Truth, The Word = The Word of God.).

Which is NOT Jesus --> John 12:49 - For I have not spoken (The Word) of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
(Just as Moses was promised above in Deu 18:18 and Luke 4:12-13 , Jesus confirms The Word in fact means or also means --> The Word of God).

For as the Father has life in himself John 1:4, in His word, Jesus also got life within himself when he was given the Spirit/Word = the Word without measure after Baptism. John 5:26.

Silly boy Tonio, as you KEEP IGNORING and very clear and obvious FACT;
Heb 1:1-2 - God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us IN his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, through, on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of whom also he made the worlds;

In His Son --> John 14:10 - Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
(Silly boy, this is exactly what John 1:14 is saying, what it means, Immanuel --> when the future one was to come, The Almighty God and Father, would be with Him. Jesus Never got called Imannuel, hence future confirmation of what the name was saying).

The works --> Acts 2:22 - Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did through, on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Now here Tonio, first time, after Baptism timing,.....we have Jesus with literal hands on, and God doing it, for the exact same reasons, the driver behind his creation = Future Jesus, back then.
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Got news for you Tonio, I am not anti Christ = Anointed one, it is YOU that has most definitely created another Jesus, just as the Bible says, would happen.
The clear facts of the OT and the snippets shown here, Jesus did NOT pre-exist, other than in the mind and plans of God.

So You Tonio, cut out the rubbish, get serious and address every point in this post, otherwise, do not waste our oxygen.