Wotsup, you just don't read other peoples posts, you just ramble on with you misunderstanding of the bible.
You will not get anywhere unless you learn the true relationship between God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
DO THIS MANY TIMES !!
Please read it many times......It's beautiful truth !
If Jesus were ‘just a man’ why did He need to be conceived by the Holy Spirit of God at all? Why couldn’t He be JUST a normal Jewish boy born to a normal Jewish mother AND FATHER? Why? Why did He need to be more than ‘just a man?’ Why did He need to be a SPECIAL DIVINE MAN?
If Jesus Christ were nothing but a human being He did not have to be conceived by God, He did not have to empty Himself, He did not have to be made lower than an angel so He could die. All men die. Just pay attention to the words.
Revelation 3:14 where it says Jesus Christ is “the beginning of the creation of God.” Concordant translates it “God's Creative Original." Now that is a profound Scripture, I mean that’s one of those really profound Scripture. That is not a false translation or anything.
Rev 3:14 …write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Jesus Christ the “beginning of the creation of God.” He is “the beginning.”
Col 1:16 for in Him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through Him, and unto Him;
He is the beginning and the beginner, all things were created through Him.
Look at I Cor. 8:6 again. Notice that it does not say, "But to us there is but one God, the Father." (Period). Nor does it say, "One Lord Jesus Christ." (Period). There is more to consider. Is this verse saying that "God the
Father" is the ONLY God," and that Jesus, therefore cannot also be "God?"
For sure Jesus can't be HIS OWN FATHER, but can Jesus also be "the ONE God?" Look at that first statement again, as it IS in the Scripture as I will re-emphasize the words to make this one point: "But to us there is but ONE God, the Father, OF WHOM ARE ALL THINGS." There is only One God, the Father, OUT OF Whom ALL IS" (Concordant Literal New Testament and The Emphatic Diaglott).
Then concerning Jesus we read: "One Lord Jesus Christ, BY Whom are all things." "Of" and "by" are two different words--"of" is applied to the Father, where as "by" is applied to the Son. Actually the word "by" is better translated "through," but that doesn't change the fact that they are different and are applied to different actions. (See Rotherham's emphasized Bible, The Emphatic Diaglott, and The Concordant Literal New Testament for verification of the word "through").
All creation is "OF" God the Father, but since Jesus was also created, not all creation is OF Jesus. But the act of creation is attributed to Jesus (See I Collosians, etc.), hence it is "through" Jesus that all the things of creation
are brought into existence by or "through" Jesus Christ.
John 13:3 "and that HE CAME FROM GOD”... that’s where Jesus came from, GOD. Not from the Godhead, not from the Trinity, FROM GOD.
John 16:27 for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I CAME OUT FROM GOD. (Just like Eve came out from Adam)
v. 28 I CAME FORTH FROM THE FATHER, and have come into the world.
1 John 4:9 In this the love of God was revealed in us, because GOD SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON into the world that we might live through Him.
v. 14 And we have seen and testify that THE FATHER SENT THE SON to be the Savior of the world.
Heb 1:2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom HE HAS APPOINTED heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds,
If Jesus Christ was part of a triune god, a trinity, then nobody’s appointed anybody, nobody is sending anybody. There is not one greater authority in a perfect equilateral triangle. But Christ said, My Father is greater than I, (John 14:28).
Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
The beginning was the Word of God, what did God began with? Jesus Christ, right? The Word, that’s what God began with, Jesus Christ is the beginning.
In Gen. 1:1 it says, “In the beginning[ Heb: reshiyth - spec. Firstfruits] God [Heb: Elohim] created the heavens and the earth”
We read in 1 Cor 15:20 But now Christ has risen from the dead, and has become the Firstfruit of those who slept.
That Jesus Christ “became the Firstfruit of those who slept.” Who is the Firstfurit? JESUS CHRIST.
Where did Jesus come from: John 7:29; John 13:3; John 9:42; John 16: 27-28; 1 John 4:9, 14.
Jesus was created by the Father; Heb 1:2; Rev 3:14. Jesus Christ was created and than became the Creator of all. So when you talk about Jesus Christ, you are talking about God. But you are talking about the One who was begotten in the God family, and one who could be emptied and formed such as a man.
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