We are at emergency levels

Originally posted by RedCedar ↑

I continue to stand by and await your proposal for a concrete solution that will result in a cessation of the exponential rise in total global carbon emissions driven from the developing world.

I am unable to think of a scenario where we can get on top of the alarmist fears of a climate catastrophe in a peaceful and painless manner as;

Humans tend to think of themselves ahead of others—except for a few saints who usually die in rags!

Humans are territorial and won’t give an inch to another power so countries are unlikely to forgo defense spending in order to develop a technological solution for CO2 abatement.

Humans tend to put off dealing with issues beyond the immediate horizon so climate warnings about the turn of this century attracts sceptical and cynical responses.

Humans tend to overestimate the power of science to deal with problems such as climate change—especially atheists-- who tend to resort to a scientific solution for problems—known as scientism

Humans tend to avoid acting if there is the possibility others can do it—known as the bystander effect.

So we are left with some less pleasant solutions;

Plato in his ‘Republic’says we need a Philosopher ruler who has no interest in obtaining wealth or fame—acting as a servant to the people.
But nowadays such an aspiring leader would never be elected or if elected would soon be assassinated as the ruler would immediately call out corruption, immorality and human weaknesses that are detrimental to society.
The rich puppet masters who pull the strings wouldn’t be happy or in the case of JF Kennedy the mob most likely killed him as his brother Robert broke a pre-election promise to the mob about leaving casinos and certain rackets alone.

A world benevolent dictatorship would be good,but how would the benevolent dictator deal with nations that disagree and also hold nuclear weapons?

In the end its seems humanity will pay a huge price because of the very same traits that allowed humans to become the most dominant and powerful species on the planet.

But humans are still subservient to Mother Nature, so we are most likely to put off acting until it’s too late as by then a Climate Tipping Point will have been reached.

As a result I predict in a couple of centuries the planet will have a human population of no more than 1 billion—thinned down by starvation, conflict, disease and lower reproductive capacity given sperm quality drops as the nuggets get hotter!

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"I am unable to think of a scenario where we can get on top of the alarmist fears of a climate catastrophe in a peaceful and painless manner..."

Well, kudos to you for being able to reconcile your clearly-strong concerns with some of the very significant practical realities that exist, which make it virtually impossible to curb continued increases in emissions for many years to come.

It makes for a refreshing change from the overwhelming majority of people who are similarly concerned about climate change, and who protest and make demands that governments in the developed world do something to address it.

Such protests and demands might advertise the virtuous and honourable nature of those undertaking them, and it might assuage their western-centric consciences, but they are futile due to the sheer nature of the beast.

"As a result I predict in a couple of centuries the planet will have a human population of no more than 1 billion—thinned down by starvation, conflict, disease and lower reproductive capacity given sperm quality drops as the nuggets get hotter!"

Ah, now you're getting some Existential Nihilism into ya...that's good.

It's the opposite attitude of what I call the Superior Species Syndrome, which is where we humans, as a species, think we are somehow special and unique when - in fact - we are just one of several billions of species that will spend a bit of time on this planet.

For in the Greater Gaea-n scheme of things we are but little specks in the aeons of time.

As a species in our current form, we have only been around for a few hundred thousand years, and we've only been organised into functional groupings for a few thousand years... by contrast, the planet is over 3.5 billion years old.

If the earth's existence was represented by a 24-hour clock, our arrival would have take place at about ten seconds before midnight.

And just like any species that becomes overly influential and dominant is unable to sustain that prominence, we humans are not exempt from Mother Earth's self-moderating mechanisms. To somehow think that, as a species, we are able to prosper and flourish to perpetuity - when no other has - is sheer hubris.

This natural order of things - which has been in train for billions of years - is far, far bigger than all of us, and to believe that we can someone alter it, is laughable. If the climate doesn't get us, something else will.

Humans consume and humans generate waste.
The more humans, the more consumption and the more the waste.
Eventually there will be insufficient resources to consume and insufficient place to store the pollution.
(Looks like we might be arriving at the point....after all, it is a time-honoured and unavoidable inevitability.)

To that end, in the overall scheme of things, climate change "alarmists" look to me not very different to climate change "deniers" in terms of the respective roles they play in this species evolution process; the difference is that one group believes - honourably, but wrongly - that it can do something to fix it and the other thinks - dishonourably, but correctly - that nothing can or should be done, or it simply doesn't know or care.

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